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00:39 < WildfireBot> f​f​f​f​f​f​f​f updated the summary of D1153 (Optional lobby chat presence (+ dot), player ratings and game open/join info) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1153
00:43 < WildfireBot> f​f​f​f​f​f​f​f added a comment to D1153 (Optional lobby chat presence (+ dot), player ratings and game open/join info) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1153
00:54 < WildfireBot> f​f​f​f​f​f​f​f updated the summary of D1153 (Optional lobby chat presence (+ dot), player ratings and game open/join info) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1153
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05:38 < WildfireBot> g​e​n​t​z created D1194 (Shrinking things in Match Creator to provide more room for other stuff.) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1194
05:46 < WildfireBot> g​e​n​t​z updated the summary of D1194 (Shrinking things in Match Creator to provide more room for other stuff.) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1194
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08:03 < gentz> Hello
08:04 < gentz> I got a question, does the msgid need to equal the english text?
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08:42 < WildfireBot> g​a​m​e​b​o​y added a comment to rP20737 (Replace DataTemplateManager simulation component with a globalscript, refs…) https://code.wildfiregames.com/rP20737
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12:28 < WildfireBot> b​b added a comment to D1194 (Shrinking things in Match Creator to provide more room for other stuff.) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1194
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13:31 < WildfireBot> b​b added a comment to D1027 (New UI for gamesetup options) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1027
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13:40 < WildfireBot> g​e​n​t​z updated the diff for D1194 (Shrinking things in Match Creator to provide more room for other stuff.) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1194
13:42 < WildfireBot> b​b updated the diff for D1027 (New UI for gamesetup options) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1027
14:05 < WildfireBot> g​e​n​t​z updated the diff for D1194 (Shrinking things in Match Creator to provide more room for other stuff.) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1194
14:10 < WildfireBot> g​e​n​t​z added a comment to D1027 (New UI for gamesetup options) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1027
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14:47 < WildfireBot> b​b added a comment to D1027 (New UI for gamesetup options) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1027
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16:54 < elexis> sorry bb1 I should have mentioned that the clone diff was more a draft than a reviewable patch as I didn't want to waste my time in case people didn't agree on the idea of the patch, so you could have saved that time too. do you agree on the idea however?
16:54 < elexis> as you noticed clone() does copy recursively while slice() only creates a new array with the existing items
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17:00 < WildfireBot> e​l​e​x​i​s added a comment to rP20737 (Replace DataTemplateManager simulation component with a globalscript, refs…) https://code.wildfiregames.com/rP20737
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17:51 < Angen> hi everyone
17:55 < elexis> hello
17:59 < Angen> I assume that we do not want to after player delete turret manually to appear turret ruin, or do we?
18:00 < elexis> maybe we do
18:01 < elexis> I'm still not sure on the entire approach
18:01 < elexis> perhaps its more comfortable to use the entities as a position where walls can snap to
18:01 < elexis> also it's a bit uncomfortable to have to define a new template for each wall segment type
18:01 < WildfireBot> e​l​e​x​i​s added a comment to D1027 (New UI for gamesetup options) https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1027
18:04 < Angen> I see, but we need to build single wall segment, what is not allowed now
18:04 < elexis> I guess its more not possible now than not allowed now
18:05 < elexis> (there were thoughts to only allow a wallpiece if both walltowers do exist (to prevent people spamming only wall towers))
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18:13 < bb1> elexis: using a function for something it is not meant for bad good imo
18:13 < bb1> -good
18:14 < bb1> *using a function for something it is not meant for is bad imo
18:14 < elexis> function = slice?
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18:16 < bb1> y
18:18 < elexis> probably slice() is still the shortest call for the non-applicable cases like the basemanager thing
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18:20 < Angen> yeah, I see, so I think we need to spawn ruin, or whatever entity only if it is attached to the wall and remove them if there is no wall attached to them, hmm
18:21 < elexis> probably we dont need that complexity
18:21 < Angen> which one
18:22 < elexis> testing if the wall part is connected to something
18:23 < elexis> also I believe wraitii had some patch for the feature, let's see
18:26 < elexis> https://wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?/topic/20526-fixedallow-to-restore-lost-wall-turrets-%EF%BC%81/&page=3
18:27 < elexis> D318 supposedly
18:27 < WildfireBot> D318: Allow a template-defined clearance around buildings (static obstructions) [Needs Review] – https://code.wildfiregames.com/D318
18:28 < elexis> not sure how or why that can affect wall placement, but it's approved by gameboy :-)
18:30 < Angen> is this patch active? 
18:30 < Angen> oh, probably not
18:31 < elexis> according to gameboys test it still applies
18:31 < elexis> since it's a very short patch and the affected code not changed often, it might still apply
18:34 < elexis> now why does the RangeVisualizationManager push a range but the RangeVisualizationRenderer doesn't render it? its just wtf
18:35 < Angen> so I can abbort it ? 
18:35 < elexis> Angen I know less about the feature than you do at this point
18:36 < elexis> I dont know anything about D318 either, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not the feature we intend
18:36 < WildfireBot> D318: Allow a template-defined clearance around buildings (static obstructions) [Needs Review] – https://code.wildfiregames.com/D318
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19:18 < Angen> maybe it would be enough to place walls around turrets more precisely, so after their destruction there would be nothing, I am going to take a look on this
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20:27 < fpre> when i reconnect game it certains things like x% of 1280kb downloaded etc.
20:27 < fpre> but when i watch wlan throughput it say around max. 100KiB/sec average 16KiB/sec
20:27 < fpre> it says certain*
20:28 < elexis> bit vs byte?
20:28 < fpre> so is the number wrong what he downloaded or my throughput graph
20:28 < fpre> probably
20:28 < fpre> x(
20:29 < fpre> so its actualy 1280 kilo bits
20:29 < fpre> xD
20:29 < fpre> and wlan graph 100 kilo bytes
20:29 < fpre> jea
20:31 < Dunedan_> fpre: as you lately did lots of chat related stuff: Do you wanna fix some small things as well, while you're at it? I thought of things like https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4920
20:31 < elexis> theres also kilobyte vs kibibyte
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20:31 < fpre> jea
20:31 < fpre> i can have a look
20:32 < fpre> made some vacations to jerusalem while coded on that chat thing
20:32 < Dunedan_> ah, nice
20:32 < elexis> Dunedan_: that ought to have been fixed already
20:32 < fpre> imagely spoken
20:32 < fpre> XD
20:32 < fpre> elexis's german english is better than mine
20:32 < Dunedan_> elexis: at least not in SVN from a few days ago
20:33 < elexis> Dunedan_: when I join the a22 lobby I get messages with timestamps of the last 20min +
20:33 < Dunedan_> deutsch tut's sonst auch ;-)
20:33 < elexis> we have messed with the timestamp code so much
20:33 < fpre> Dunedan_:  this ticket is untrue.
20:34 < fpre> was made some progress onit
20:34 < elexis> check XmppClient::ComputeTimestamp
20:34 < Dunedan_> ok, could it be broken again? In A22 it works for me as well, but in SVN it doesn't.
20:34 < elexis> but the timezone could be wrong or something
20:34 < elexis> in svn I get timestamps of different hours too
20:35 < elexis> but there was some timezone ticket iirc
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20:35 < Dunedan_> ok, then it must be related to the newer ejabberd I'm running here. Let me quickly check with #arena23.
20:35 < fpre> strangely my a23 work good timestamp :(
20:35 < elexis> #4841
20:35 < WildfireBot> #4841 (RealTime an hour off and ceasefire and gametime at 0.) – http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4841
20:36 < Dunedan_> indeed
20:36 < Dunedan_> seems to be related to ejabberd. I'll check what changed between the versions and update the ticket.
20:36 < fpre> nice ticket
20:38 < elexis> perhaps gloox or the glooxwrapper need an update too
20:38 < Dunedan_> aside from that issue I haven't encountered any problems with the current version, but of course updating would be good in any case
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21:02 < WildfireBot> News from 0adsvn: Ticket #4920 (Show correct timestamp for lobby chat backlog) updated http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4920#comment:1
21:02 < WildfireBot> News from 0adsvn: Ticket #1911 (Delayed damage) updated http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/1911#comment:12
21:03 < Philip> I'm going to turn off the old IP address for {feedback,irclogs,os}.wildfiregames.com now, because it's an ancient VM and probably not secure nowadays
21:04 < Philip> I'm still hoping someone can update the DNS at some point to use the new server
21:05 < elexis> I will post a staff forum thread
21:06 < elexis> or irclogs too
21:06 < elexis> Philip: you cant kill irclogs :S
21:07 < elexis> well I guess you might
21:07 < Philip> (I'm not sure the new server is secure either but at least I can install kernel updates on it when available)
21:07 < Philip> elexis: Maybe that'll motivate people to get it fixed :-)
21:07 < elexis> we can disable the webinterface of http://moreirclogs.wildfiregames.com/ until it shows the ones of this channel too and provides the raw directory listing
21:08 < elexis> yeah well Im not sure what happened to people
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21:08 < Philip> You can also put the new IP in /etc/hosts and access the new irclogs that way
21:09 < Philip> (Currently the server at the old IP is simply proxying to the new server)
21:10 < Philip> (and I can't attach the old IP to the new server because they're in different data centers)
21:10 < Philip> (which is unfortunate)
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21:20 < Philip> When I said "now", I meant "in a couple of hours when I've finished doing an extra backup just in case"
21:20 < WildfireBot> News from 0adsvn: Ticket #4920 (Show correct timestamp for lobby chat backlog) updated http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4920#comment:2
21:21 < elexis> postes staff thread
21:21 < elexis> *d
21:22 < elexis> Dunedan_: checked the glooxwrapper?
21:22 < Philip> Thanks
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21:33 < elexis> back to funny awkward aura OOS
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21:43 < elexis> and today I learnt that uneval(x) returns {} for a Map
21:43 < elexis> which explains some part of the wtf
21:44 < Philip> uneval is evil
21:44 < elexis> eval is
21:44 < Philip> So is uneval :-)
21:45 < Philip> I think I remember SpiderMonkey developers saying they hate that it exists, too
21:45 < Philip> although maybe that was largely because it has to support decompiling functions
21:47 < elexis> sounds like trouble
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21:48 < elexis> uneval(this.templateModificationsCache.keys()) also returns {} whereas uneval([...this.templateModificationsCache.keys()] shows what is wanted ffs
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21:50 < elexis> hm, easier to convert the map containing a map containing a map to objects than to print its contents
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22:09 < elexis> oh its the same OOS as before, just somewhere else, great
22:09 < elexis> bb1: AuraManage templateModificationsCache contains parts of the JSON Files
22:09 < elexis> the affects classes
22:10 < elexis> its an array
22:10 < elexis> so after deserialization it fails to remove the now new object
22:10 < elexis> this is not good
22:11 < elexis> we could just serialize uneval(affects) :D
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22:15 < elexis> (the uneval trick even works)
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22:56 < elexis> @seen sanderd17
22:56 < WildfireBot> elexis: sanderd17 was last seen in #0ad-dev 36 weeks, 4 days, 4 hours, 41 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <sanderd17> Nah, if it's between players, the dev decides :D
23:03 < WildfireBot> News from 0adsvn: Ticket #4924 (ModificationTemplateManager OOS) updated http://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/4924#comment:1
23:03 < WildfireBot> News from 0adsvn: superhackylolnopeuneval.patch attached to Ticket #4924 http://trac.wildfiregames.com/attachment/ticket/4924/superhackylolnopeuneval.patch
23:08 < elexis> Philip: ping
23:10 < elexis> Philip: the two hostnames were updated, implodedok asking what happened to os.wildfiregames.com
23:11 < elexis> oh, "is broken and should probably be removed or moved to the WFG server or something"
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